>> all right. richard carmona, great to have you with us tonight. all the best. thanks so much. >> thank you, ed. >> that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "the rachel maddow show" srts right now. >> good evening, ed. thank you. and thanks to you at home staying with us for the next hour. have ncy pelosi tonht heivr inie very excited about that. if this was the image of the week, across the country, for last week, the surreptitiously filmed mitt romney addressing wealthy republican donors in florida and telling them how no good and horrible half the cotry was, if at was the e hek w then this would surely have to qualify as the image of the week this week. touchdown? no touchdown? touchdown? oh, no! right? the big nfl referee's scandal thing. the green y packers gettg totally robbed of a win on ayhttb that image from this week has crossed over now from being just a sports story to being an america story. it's now even an american politics story.

yesterday the republican governor of wisconsin, scott walker, who course is most famous for stripping union rights in his state, stt lkcty on favor of bringing back the union refs to the nfl. see, when it's about something that doesn't matter much like education, screw the unions. but when it's something important like football, well, look for the union label, erica. barack obamandt mney and weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men sayinghat the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even the packers' agony s that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap th exists between the green bay packers and t a0 s, os still this moment.

one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are only87 ds bere niam and 360 days before we go back to miami! whereas the packers are america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of the people of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thompson, governor of the great e isin heby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans!

congratulations. thank you. >> tommy thompson, from the t e is - declaring packers day. he was the governor of wiscons back in the '90s. since then, he keeps running for office. he ran for president for aot condtryi to nvin lewathe other guy named thompson, not named fred. now he is the republican nominee for the united states senate in wisconsin. tommy thompson right now is losing that race. the last five polls out of wisconsin all show tommy thompson losin including one pout today tt shs hi lo b ps. and that was before the "milwaukee journal sentinel" today posts this video of tommy thompson this summer telling a tea party group what his plans are for medica and also for medicaid. listen to this. keidfaano medicare and medicaid better than me, that's already

finished one of the entitlement programs, to come up with programs to do away with medicaid and medicare? >> who better than me, to away with medicare? e g av w until the next round of polling in wisconsin to see how the tape of tommy thompson saying he wants to get rid of medicare affects his numbers, in a state that's already inclined against him by 12 points. what do you think the next round's ing to look ke. po iisatce named tammy baldwin. one snapshot of politics right now in this country is how the presidential race is going. but the race to control the united states sena most days is a more amazing story. or a more amazing amalgamaon of stories. yiwhttham thps is ap get rid of medicar but something like that can't even win the shocking election tape of the week award, nowhen it's up against other competitors from this weeklike [ chtinge.

this is the tape we aired here last night of five staffers for massachusetts republican senator scott brown, as well as other republican party operatives, chanting fake native american r whps aoiomk chops, to mock native americans. the abc affiliate in boston identified the scott brown staffers he as his deputy chief of staff, his constituent services council, his state director for massachusetts, and his special assistant. also, there is a massachusetts state republican party guy here, who works in conjunction with the brown campaign. scott brown came out shortly after he heard about this tape yesterday to say that he did not condone the behavior of his staffers here. but you know, this is not exactly an isoted cide. bg rectrino campaign for the senate on the issue of elizabeth warren's ethnicity and what he thinks it

really is. >> professor warren claimed that she was a native american, a person of color, and as you can atngd, ced not. box and she had an opportunity, actually, to make a decision throughout her career, when she apply to penn and harvard, she chked the box claiming she was a native american. and you know, clearly she's not. >> clearly. "clearly she's not." t teinlith warren. the very first ad that scott brown aired after that first debate was not an ad addressing any specific issues in the country or in the senate race, but ther an ad attacking elizabeth rren on the basis of . scott brown has had a campaign website up for weeks in which he describes elizabeth warren as a, quote, fake indian. that's the language he uses on his website. idte w hd t,ttwn

coe towk chop, war whoop, making fun of native americans behavior by his senate staffers, he said that he did think an apology was necessary. and that apology was necessary from elizabeth warren. sct brown described elizabeth warren yesterdays offensive. e he ts fensive here, according to scott brown. these are his staffers. senate staffers. we pay their salary. today the chief of the cherokee nation put out this statement. "the cherokee naon is disappointed in and denounces the disrespectful actions of stafrs and supporters of maachutts nasc br thcondt of these individuals goes far beyond what is appropriate and proper in political discourse. the use of stereotypical war whoop chants and tomahawk chops are offensive and downright racist. the individuals involved in this unfortunate incident are high-rking staffers in both e seteicd br ai a campai that would allow and condone such offensive and racist behavior must be called to task for their actions.

i will not be silent when individuals mock and insult our people and our great nation. we need invials in the unedtenahopect veri aav understanding of tribal issues. for that reason, i call upon senator brown to apologize for the offensive actions of his stf and their uneducated, unenlightened and racist portrayal of native peoples. teigafsang thinall y lo in response to that, scott brown's campaign, late tonight, finally put out a statement saying that he regrets the unacceptable behavior of his after. his spokesperson added, quote, this kind of conduct will t be tolerated. scott own, tbe car, s r rothlith warren has native american ancestry, right? it's not like anybody's ever produced any evidence to say that she is not native american. the whole basis for the brown campaign making fun of indian people, right, the whole basis for all of ts making fun of verin pele bscot brown and by his campaign is

that he says he can tell by looking at her that she is way too white-looking toeally be cherokeer of any other native american ancestry. to be clear, that is t chief of the cherokee nation on the d 'szath wren the right-hand side of your screen. scott brown says, look at her. i can tell she's not native american. scott own, as the incumbent senator in massachusetts, had been leading in the polls. the repuican-leaning rasssen sssese rat ps ti about four of the last five polls in the state show challenger elizabeth warren beating scott browin massachusetts. the challenge was not supposed to be scott brown. he's supposed to be great at campaigning. thonlyrobl forim in this race was supposed to be the headwind he was going to get from being in such a democratic-leaning state. well, now thanks to the way he's running his campaign, the headwinds he's facing no longer appear to be the only factor that ought to rry republicans

in this race in missouri, though, the siyn hee wo. the democratic incumbent in missouri, claire mccaskill, she was thought of having almost no chance of holding on to her seat this year because of the reblican headwinds in the state of missouri. because they have grown so strong since she was elect there had 2006. that, since the claire mccaskill , be rli decided this guy would be their nominee to secede her. >> if it's a legitimate rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. >> republican u. senate candidate todd akin of missouri ai t difrenc between legitimate rapes and other rapes. you know, things called rape, but, you know. todd akin's been getting away with saying stuff like that for his whole career. but now that he's a u.s. senate candidate, you're not supposed articulate things that sound that czy. son saithatast month, everybody went nuts, including

the right. his own party decided he could no longer be the u.s. senate candidate from misuri. the other candidate from missouri, roy blunt, said at the timetoddeedso ou r thaed of the senate campaign committee for the national republican appeared said of todd akin, "we're done." just about everybody in republican politics, from mitt romney and paul ryan, all the way down to thscott browns of the world called for todd akin to gut of that missouri naac w m ari before the republican convention, but now, apparently, now we know how much time outrage wears off in. now republicans have decided they're over all of their concerns about todd akin. here he is doing a press conference last week with newt gingrich. newt gingrich there showg hi sut toki today republican senator jim demint and former presidential candidate rick santorum threw their support behind todd akin. republican senator roy blunt, remember him? the guy who said todd akin has to get out. he put out a statement today saying that now is supporting todd akin.

thstatrepuicar tsbout akin after his comments about some rapes being legitimate last month, they now say they're all in for todd akin as well. even the national republican party's sete campaign committee, the guys who said we're done when they were talking about todd aki apparently they are thinking now of not bnge with him anore. so now we know just how offended all of those republicans really were about the legitimate rape comments. they weroffended enough until the deadline passed and they couldn't get off the ballot and they couldn't replace him anymore, and now they've decided gitee g.already withhe wle the outrage just wore off. took about a month. todd akin had been heavily favored by double digits in that senate race before this whole thing started. but the latest polling out of missouri now shows claire mccaskill ahead. she is nowack to having two big headwind rig? ist reicar expected to win the state at the presidential level. but two is that todd akin is out of the doghouse.

now that the outrage has worn off, now he's going to be benefiting from tons of conservative money from all over the country tolect the legitimate rape guy. ntngo trend the way it has been in recent days, which is that it's trendinin barack obama's favor. new polling by "the new york times" and quinnipiac has president obama up in florida by nine points. in ohio, president obama up by ten points. est a y oias there are otr smaller and more local polls that have the margins slightly smaller in pennsylvania and florida today, but those other pollalso show president obama winning in the swing states. a new ppp poll in iowa today shows president obama leading in io bvein ie mtiol colorado showing president obama leading in colorado by four points. nationally, president obama has seen his lead rebound in recent days. in the gallup daily tracking point, he initially got a six-point bounce out of the democratic convention. that lead evaporated in e ys n pdebaas tow au

regained that six-point lead as if he just did the conventions all over again. with just 41 days left until the election, a snapshot of the race is very clear. in fact, we do these polls every day and it's almost starting to seem static at the presidential lel. thswstpolls that we do every day, pretty much the map always look like this. president obama leading in all of the swing states or at least leading in almost all of them. a standard caveat, of course, is that anything could change. but the longer that it goes on without changing, as long as it starts to look like is is calcifying as the state of the , ci nhare than half the country is already voting, half the swing states, already voting right now, while that is happening, if that part of the race is staying and this is the way it's gog to look, at times the more interesting part of the election is not just the race for the whi house, na.he ce conol oth and maybe even for control of the house. those races all get inflected by what's happening at the top of the ticket, right? at a certain point, though, if

it stays like this in the presidential race, now's the time to start asking, these outside groups who have be en hed mon ar trent race, behalf of mitt romney, look at those poll numbers and say, why are we spending all this money? why are we sending good money after bad? is the race going to be written off by republican donors? the democrats are not only saying now that they are going to hold on to the senate, the democrats are now starting to talk about taking back the house, which in all likelihood would make nancy pelosi speaker of the house again. nancy pelosi is our guest, next. [ male announcer ] if you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® liquid gels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®love the air.

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paul ryan has become an intellectual leader of the republican party. >> that is the day things really changed. we were on a path. wde even. well, momentum is very much with us. the medicare issue in this campaign, so we have a message, we have the messengers, we have the money, we had the mobilization. we have a very excellent chance to take back the house. the ree itasshey have been in the campaign, in alphabetical order. medicare, medicare, medicare.

and when ryan was chosen, the agent for the destruction of medicare was chosen as the vice presidential candite, well, it clarified the debate for many people in the races that we are active in. >> whatever it says about american politics, the fact is that the balance of power in congress and the house of representatives has been shifting pretty wildly in these st few elections. in a08e mocrs swung 52 seats in their direction. they seized both control of the house and a huge majority in the house. then in 2010, the republicans swung seats back in their direction, and they got control in 2010. and now for this year, beltway coon womays e' really no chance the democrats can swing enough seats back to them to take the house back over. but some political scientists say, actually, that is a real possibility, that the democrats could take back the house. and the democrs themselves sounding increasingly confident that they might do it. vepe evey, stranger thin

recently. joining us tonight for the interview is the democratic leader of the house of representatives, nancy pelosi. madame leader, it's great to have you here. thank you for coming. >> my flash, rachel. great to be here, always. >> democrats need 25 seats? >> yes, we have a drive for 25. >> you have said that you think the majority is with you. the momentum is with you. is that based on what's going on in the presidential race, or is there something else that's going on that makes you feel that momentum? >> well, both. we have been working very hard us p.ta ple tout t we did that by, say, late spring/early summer. but when august 11th, mark that date on your calendar, when ryan was chosen, that made a very big difference. because medicare, medicare, pot esth, the three most campaign, in alphabetical order, that issue was clarified, focus was on it, and we could not lose the debate about medicare,

becae if we do, forget democrats, forget republicans, medicare is gone. we'll be back to a time before lyndon johnson wel utting seniors at the mercy of the insurance companies by giving them a voucher, but not a guarantee. and the severing of that guarantee, the architect of that, is paul ryan, his being chosen made a big difference for you. ndou feel like the choice of paul ryan made essentially every other campaign issue, at least, fall away for any house candidate who chooses to run on that. that that's a clear enough issue on that issue that nothing ee really has to matter? >> well, on house races, especially in a esidential year, you only have a small opportunity toet pple's attention and to hit them with your best shot, as to what your message is. and this has been an issue that hits every generation. it's about the seniors, of course, it's about their families, and how all of them alecy,au their s

seniors are taken care of. we're very excited about it. but i wish that it were not a race about medicare, because the fact is, medicare is on the ballot. my ne is on the ballot, the presids i t tallot.ar and if we do not win the house, and of course if the president doesn't win, but we feel pretty good about the president's winning, that would be very much at risk. >> in terms of how you think that shapes the map and opportunities for house the untrthat flire places in you might, honestly, not be all that competitive this year. but specifically on that issue, specifically because mitt romney picked paul ryan, there's geographical parts of the country are democrats can compe better. tick will get more people to the polls. many of the races, the battleground states that you showed earlier, are just a few states. we're in more states than the president.

so we're basically on r own, texas, california, new york, illinois, maryland, washington st anaalthgh iy become a battleground state, because the opportunity might be there for the president. and we expect to win about 20 seats in the states i just named. then we go where the president is, florida, ohio, colorado, waneva, stes lth toe ohwant to go beyond 25, i would like to have 35. buthe -- it's a very discreet races, some states rp -- have blue patches that we want to win back. thar dichat are held by republicans that were won by president obama and about a third of those were also won by john kerry. and soe think there's real opportunity. we wgog to tou people didn s in '06 when we first made this attempt.

yet. it took like another few weeks before they started to see the handwriting on the wall that the momentum was with us, and that the polls, and that these individual districts were coming our way. rit nowe'rin a a erofe,e ts ahead, average in the generic. some eight, some two, average of five, that five is enough to win the house. i'd like six or seven percentage points difrence in the polling for us to take -- >> in tes of the gener baot, le a, ou moicgress? >> in individual districts. >> one of the issues that gets a lot of attention in terms of how it might affect the presidential race is the issue of voter suppression, becoming more difficult to register to vote and to vot if you have a moment, have actual somnew ws oat ofri can you hold on a moment. how that's going to affect not just the presidential race, but also the race to control the congress. we'll be back with democratic leader nancy pelosi right t aftethis.

check this out. this is new news tonight. this past spring, florida's republican gernor, rick scott, stard a purge to get people off the voter rolls in florida. one of the floridian voters who was targeted in that purgeas a nauh aga he got a letter from the state of florida this spring ordering him to prove his citizenship within 30 days or lose his right to vote. asery ncer hnt in his proof of citizenship.

today he was told by mr. rick scott's administration, that's not good enough, he's going to prove his proof of citizenship all over again. they're tryi to purge him a second time. stt'sctdion has sent florida counties another new list of voters it wants purged off the voter rolls now, less than six weeks before the electi. his last purge targeted 82% nority voters,n heily cr m-dcoun, 98% of the people who he tried to purge off the voter rolls as noncitizens, 98% of those who responded actually were citizens, but of course 100% of the people targeted by the pge ha been threatened by the state of florida about cing tir rht tte and all the counties, it's not like they have anything else to do, right, 41 days before they need to get 11 million potential votes cast and counted.

back with us for the interview tonight is the democratic leader anu n yourime f representative tonight. >> thank you. >> what's happening here in florida is obviously part of a big increase in purges and changing the voting laws in states where republicans are in control in order to make it harder to vote this election. are you confident that democrats hs id t g that off well. that. don't agonize, organize. we have to go out there and shine a bright light on it, so the puic knows the immorality of putting up barriers to voting. it's just plain wrong. but apart from tha okay,e know that's wrong. in iridilousate is but what we have to do is make sure that every person who is eligible to vote gets the i.d., goes through the motions, is registered to vote, and their vote is counted as cast. because this thing keeps going. counted asast. that's very important. it's part of what they're doing.

suffocate the airwaves with endless, unidentified special interest money, suck the air out of the air waves. suppress the vote with these regulations and laws thathey have passed, and the other way sese vote is to help people -- it's no use even going, you're not going to be able to vote, it's a turnoff. what else is a turnoff is their poisonous campaign. if youuffocate the airwaves, rehee,soe tepeople throw up their hands and say, i don't even know if i want to participate in this. and when they walk away, right, thinking people walk away, t special interestachieve a we have to keep the campaign positive, about what our president could do, in the case of elizabeth warren, in case of our democrats, how this could be different and was different when we we in the majority, with a democratic president and a republican president. so, again, don't agonize, organize. early voting is a good way to overcome some of the obstacles there, establishing.

governor scott is ridiculous beyond words in what he is tr t this own people. they're afraid of the people. they're afraidf their votes. and they have to suppress them. we have to overcome that. because by winning, we winning we can prove them wrong in their tactics. and by winning, we can -- have a dare. -- f de' there, disclose, i'm nancy pelosi, i approve this me think. we have to have disclosure of where this money's coming from in campaigns. ltulilaidot y my name, but these have to say their name on an ad. amend the constitution to overturn citizens united. it can be done. the public wants it. we have to take the first step perform the system. public financi of campaigns. get rid of the role of money, doevar there formers. republicans or democrats or whoever, who are willing to stand up for our democracy that our founders sacrificed everything for.

the government of the many, not the government of the money. and th is really important. because as long as they can control the mechanics of elections, theve nt and we have to offset it. but we also have to win, so that we can change it. >> in terms of just the idea of dispiriting people that the campgns mean anything, poisoning the debate, making people feel like it doesn't matter if i vote or not, one of e issues that i, just as a indrd heeel frustrated is not presidential race, that i think is something people care a whole lot about is the war that we are in. we are in the longest war in american history. and you and i have talked in the past and in previous interviews, you once told me the political dynamics around the war in afghanistan e not particularly and just this last week, congressman bill young of florida, he changed his nd on the war. came out against the war. he just said, i just think we're killing kids that don't need to die. mitt romney didn'tven put it his nominion spee at e

convention, but should ending the war before the president's scheduled timetable in 2014 be a matter of presidential discussion? should it be a matter of debate for house candidates right now? is it a matter for congress to decide? >> well, it is a matter of our national security, and how does e esident is on a course to get this done. it doesn't mean it will take all of that time. but it will be done by that time. and that is progress from where we had been. you have to remember, when president sh was president there was no plan. we had been e 6 1/2 ars wio . we routed the taliban, we did not defeat them, and then we left and went to iraq. so president obamaad to put a plan in place and a timetable to get it done. so it may not be as fast as we woulall ke, t the ct the cost of this war, in terms of our human treasure, the most important part, our young people, the casualties to their lives and to their physical

well-beingnd their mental -- it's all physical, mental or not. so, yeah, i do think that this is taking to us a place where we should really understand that war, as a resolution of conflict, is an obsolete idea. and we should take the debate to a bigger place, a bigger place. i'll never get over the fact that presideustooks into war on a false premise, that he knew was false, that his administration knew was false, for a different agenda, and look how long we stayed in iraq. >> whether or not it ends up becoming an issue in the presidential race, is this a matteror congress to decide, in terms of when we leave, befo the electorer esidt's call? >> well, it's a combination. because when we won in '06, one of the big issues was ending the war in iraq. and we went to see the president and we said, we're here, how do we end the war, and he said, that's not going to ppen. and the president,esyou the mercy of.

but let me say, this election, because of what we have been through, i want to make this one point. people are saying, the republicans had the nerve to say, are you better off than you were four years ago. and pe -er are struggles. and part of it is that still rem informants of what happened during the bush years. but just a week ago, in my office, the speaker's office, and the presce of th republican and democratic leader in the house -- leaders in the house and senate, the chairman of the fed said to us after secretary bernanke described a terrible meltdown of our financial instution, the chairman of the fed said, if we do ammtewel not have an economy by monday. this is the place that had taken us to. this is the place that president obama and house decrats tried to take us the from.

this is the place that the republican majory has blocked any of president obama's initiatives to do more to help individual families in our country. but how could they possibly even pose the question, are you better off, when the chairman of the fed, that day, four years ago, and one week ago, if we don'act immediately, we will not have an economy! an economyy monday. we certainly are better off, and as a country, and now we have to make sure we elect a democratic house to work with the president, so that we n pass the jobs bill, that we can pass political reform. you can't separate -- walter ruthaid u cat serate bread box and the ballot box. if you want the right politics for working families, you have to get to the polls. drive for 25. >> that about whether or not it isossible for thdemocrats to chti df very, veryh blue polls of the presidential race and down ballot.

congresswoman nancy pelosi of california, the former speaker of the house, current democratic leader of the house, always nice to have you. >> thankou, my pleasure. ming up next, a candidate asked about his honesty. the candidate responds by telling a lie about how honest he is. i'm hoping this one is performance art. [ female annncer ] born from the naturally sweetonk fruit, something this delicious cod on come from nature. now from the maker of splenda sweeteners, discover nectresse. the only 100% natural, no-calorie sweetener made from the goodness of fruit. the rich, sweet taste of sugar.

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ers aur e,t at o behavior, in the mitt romney for president campaign that is unlike other campaigns. and we have been covering this pattern of behavior in that campaign for months. the candidate himself d never before copped to this pattern, had never addrsed it with reporters, before now. he fally, finally decided to mention it. it is tape, it is terrifically awkward, but it is all finally on the record. that story is next.

e mitt romney for president campaign yesterday finally addressed something that we on this show have been ing our hs something we first raised back in november. we have been hoping for the romney campaign to address this issue ever since then, but they've just been able to avoid talking about it for months. until now. this week, mitt romney himself finally forced to address it. e idhaenine other day, you said fool people with his ads and his speeches about your record. but fact checkers have also taken issue with your ads. haven't you also played fast and loose with the facts from time to time? >> we've been absolutely spot-on.

and anytime there's anything that'seen misswere itre i >> hmm. what he's describing there, removing or correcting false claims made by the campaign once you realize they are false, that is a process that a normal campaign does follow. that's what makes is statement so newsworthy. because the romney campan hasn't been doing th. theyaven brengir e msm re once they're proven to be false. which is a strange decision for a campaign operating at the presidential election. look at one of the first general election ads released by the romney campaign. this was released back in november of last year. >> provide relief for homeowners. it's going to take a new direction. if we keep talking about the economy,e're going tlose. >> "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose, lose, lose." that is how mitt romney's ad rehat president obama actually said. >> senator mccain's campaign

actually said, and i quote, "if we keep talking about the economy, we're going to lose." >> so the romney ad tried to make it sound like president obama said this thing thate he qti it to say that he disagreed with that statement. i mean, there are lots of little lies in politics, little exaggerations, but that's really big, really bad lie. and it was their first ad against president obama. and so, naturally,itt romney got skewered for this, for viy blunt lie.irst gener what did the romney campaign do about the whopper in that ad? did they correct it or remove as mitt romney now says has always been his campaign policy? no, they didn't it. that ad is still up on his campaign web page. not only did the romney campaign dinot remover coect at ad, romney defended it just as it was getting all attention for being a lie, remember? >> there was no hidden effort on the part of our campaign. it was instead to point out what's sauce for the goose is now sauce r the gander.

>> sces go, ever. but mitt romney didn't correct or remove the ad that had the lie in it about what president obama said about the economy. he said, essentially, i mean, what are you going to do about it. also, geese. he used the same dynamic at work with the other romney political ad looking to make political hay t ofheolyndra bankruptcy. this is from may. >> the inspector general said contracts were steered to friendand family. >> that is not true. point of fact, the inspector general did not say that. that is an empirical claim. it is empirically false. yon k f t which again the press was quick to point out. so has the solyndra ad with this whopper about the inspector general been corrected or removed? no. it has not. it is still right there on mitt romney's campaign web page. and then there's the w-moel aom ro ciglast month. >> president obama quietly ended the work requirement, gutting welfare reform.

>> that is notrue. that did not happen. president obama did not strip the work requirement out of welfare quietly or otherwise. icgahaennted nt. out ad nauseam by political reporters. but the romney campaign's response about getting caught lying about president obama's welfare policies was not to correct or remove the ad, like mitt romney has said has always been done, that ad. untrue welfare ad. >> any time there's anything that's been amiss we correct it or remove it. the president on the other and. even the welfare ad? >> absolutely. it has been shown time and again that the president's effort to take work requirement out of welfare is a calculated move

>> the president has made no effort to take work requirements out of welfarement so even as he's claiming that the campaign corrects the record when it gets caught getting the facts wrong, mitt romney is repeating the exact falsehood that got him in so much trouble in the first place. campaigns get stuff wrong. campaigns make claims in the heat of the moment get overstated or maybe they say things they know are wrong but then they get called on them and they have to apologize. that's normal. that's polics. at'stran heris t ro cigs some false claims in the campaign, right? what is strange here is when they have gotten things wrong, when they've been called out for getting things wrong, they have not tried to fix it. when they have been shown to be making false claims. it doesn't cause them any stress. but even within the romney campaign, i have to say there is another model for dealing with problems like this. this may come from the way mr. romney was beaten in 2008.

it may have left his campaign termined that he not get stuck th t fliflopr lal ag even though they leave the ads with the lies in them up and sometimes mr. romney goes on tv invents a brand new policy position he's never had before. llowbehind him and quietly releasing statements faeg back his quotes. when mr. romney was asked in an interview last week about one of his immigration advisers. he said he could not confirm whether kris kobch was part of his team. and they y, he's a romney cagnis soe tes annterews r wiim h campaign says what he said was not true.

same thing happened last month when mr. romney came out with a whole new policy position on abortion rights. >> i'm in favor ofbortion being legal in the casof rape d incest in the heth othe lif moer. >> he says he believes abortion should be allowed to protect a woman's health. afterwards the campaign said that's not what he believes. oe allppth legal right to have an abortion if you need one to protect your health as a woman. the same thing happened earlier this month when mr. romney cam out with a whole new take of obama care. >> i'm not getting rid of all of ere mbf gse reform. that i like that i'm going to put in place. one is to make sure that those with preexisting conditions can get coverage. >> i'm not getting rid of all of health reform. he says he wantso cover people with preexisting conditions and

d hes mean that. out afterwards saying that mr. romney was n in favor of a law requiring that coverage. the same thing happened just a week ago when he suddenly, surprisingly said his red line of keeping iran from going nuclear is the same as president obama's red line. after mitt romney said that on tape that he believes his red line is the same as president obama's, his campaign quietly he doesn't really believe that. they said e itas t guy who was asking the question was wrong and suggesting that it was the same p. and when mitt romney said yeah that was in fact the case he was just being agreeable or sothin same thing happened again this week. mitt romney conceded another one of his frequent attacks on the president.

he's been charging for months that president obama has raised xes on middle class americans. but then he admitted on tape that president obama has not raised taxes. e't new ea, one thing he did not do in his first four years which is to raise taxes. >> so mitt romney admits that president obama has not raised taxes during his first term as department. mp safarwhat on ta andis he said he does not believe that. they're not admitting that he misspoke. they're not saying that he said the wrong word. they're saying he didn't mea what he clearly said. what seems to be happening here is that in the mom wn he's talking to an interviewer or speaking to an audience, he just says what they want to hear, even if it's not really his position or can't remember what his position is supposed to be or if it not really what he believes. but his campaign can't have the flip flop be on the record.

beom8.ensitive to that so quietly they just erase the quote. they take it back. they say he never said that. they never admit that he might have said the wrong thing. they justry to erase from the record the wrong thing that he said. so it's two strategies. wihe tjueahe e up. but when the candidate himself says it, they let him say whatever seems right to that audience right in front of him. they never say he apologizes or mix spoke but the campaign tries at yeaimay, he ecord later. didn't really say that. so with this campaign you really do have a choice. which of these two ways of lying is a better way to lie? they've got a lot of practice at both. announcer ] if you stash tissues like a squirrel stashes nuts, you may be muddling through allergies. ryte®quels. nothing starts working faster than zyrtec® at relieving your allergy symptoms for 24 hours. zyrtec®. love the air.

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